planet debian right now: GRs; complaints about GRs; some light hearted poking of fun at GRs; taking the fun out of debian; dunc-tank criticism; DPL criticism; criticism of criticism; mis-quotes, etc.

planet ubuntu right now: debug symbols for all packages; disabling the synaptics touchpad whilst typing; various other productive and interesting things.

I don't know if it's always like this, and the ubuntu community certainly isn't flame free (I've been following ubuntu-devel recently), but right now, the public face of debian is not shouting the triumphs loud enough to be heard above the bitching.


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