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I'm now going to avoid casio and I have a general policy of avoiding sony. h3. Stuff I saw in john lewis * Panasonic DMC TZ3EB-A * Panasonic DMC FX50EB-K Both with wide-angle lenses * LX2EB 250 quid; I think wih wide-angle h3. Panasonic LUMIX DMC TZ3 * http://www.steves-digicams.com/2007_reviews/panasonic_tz3_pg5.html - good writeup * http://www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/536640/art/panasonic/lumix-dmc-tz3-black.html - 278 * http://flickr.com/cameras/panasonic/dmc-tz3/ Not an ultraportable, but does have a wide-angle lens and 10x optical zoom, and the Mega OIS image stabilisation thing. h3. Panasonic LUMIX DMC LZ5 * http://www.steves-digicams.com/2006_reviews/lz5.html Not a wide-angle lens? does have Mega OIS; 6x optical zoom; not ultra-compact but small;